Genealogy Chat

If you don't want to shell out on a cert - is it feasible to get a photo-copy of the Parish Register page? - you have to know the exact when & where,of course, but you do end up with a copy of the original record with the real signatures of the bride & groom and not just transcripts. [You can gather that, having - at last - sussed out this lot, I'm strongly in favour of the photocopy Register page over the official cert!] Christine

When the future generation finally gets their hands on the 2001, they'll have a nightmare with our house. Two adults with different surnames, other half's 2 kids who have the same surname as him, my son who doesn't have the same surname as any of us and my brother who has a different surname again. Ah well.....!

I must admit, I always feel guilty knowing in a hundred years that my son will show on the census in two places - one at boarding school and one at home (I just wasnt sure whether the school would add him, but they did).

I feel a bit better knowing that this has happened to other people so chances are it's the same Edward. Whether he is mine still remains to be seen. As usual, the marriage doesn't appear on IGI or the BVRI disc and given that he's not my direct line, I'm a bit reluctant to chuck £7 at a certificate. I found the wife and one of the children late last night - she died in 1870 which probably explains her absence from the 1871 census, the son's a Servant in Yorkshire. The other two kids are still AWOL as is Edward! Lou

Hi, it does sound too much of a coincidence doesnt it? I mean shopkeepers/sailors wife. Check it out a bit more but it does sound a pretty safe likelihood. Yes, I am the one who had the soldier in barracks at Westminster who must have biked the 2 miles to a lodging house to be with a wife and son! I think very possibly he had married 'without leave' so would not been able to reveal this on the census and had a mate sign him in! Though I must say he was down as soldier on both entries.

Have seen several cases like that - but it's often the case that the crew listing turns out to be on the 'NOT on board' page! Christine (just back from fortnight's holiday, if anyone's been expecting me to reply to something on here)

saw exactly the same in Hull - chap on board his docked boat, and also at home .... image actually stated the name of his vessel ....

Hi Lou I managed to appear twice on the 1981 and 1991 census and had every intention of appearing twice on the 2001 census, but they changed the rules. A great uncle is shacking up with his girlfriend as well as being safe in the bosom of the family in the 1901. I would say you almost certainly (99%) have the same man. Small differences are probably caused by the wife filling in the home schedule. What a bonus, then! We don't usually get two bites of the cherry.

Thanks Alan! I'm fairly sure its the same chap. A bit too cute that another Edward Martin born in the same village in Essex is living 'ooop north' and has a boat named after the other Edward and his wife. But I'm a stickler for loose ends and can't seem to tie this one up! Lou

Will have another poke around the 71 and the BMD's and then throw it open to you lot, me thinks Seem to be able to find everyone else's but not my own!

I did a look up, and found the same name and details twice - one listed with mother and his occ.bar tender. When i looked at the other entry he was a bar man entered under the name of the hotel he was working at that night, in the very same village. jess

That would make sense! Just wish I could find a trace of them after 61, if only to make me feel better that there is only one of them! Am pretty sure this is the guy I'm looking for though Thanks both of you Lou

If Edward filled out the one census household shedual in advance and the other on the actual night, then he would be in 2 places at once on paper. There was one thread - the 13 genealogical commandments i think - where someone had found a rellie in army barracks and at home on census night.

one of my rellies was on 3 census the same night dont know how she managed it she was visiting her children, talk about confusing

I've found 2 Edward Martin's on the 1861 census. Both born in Thorpe, Essex, but the birth years are slightly different. One was born 1820, the other 1822. 1820 Edward is in Kingston upon Hull with wife Margaret and 3 children, occupation Shopkeeper 1822 Edward is aboard a vessel in Durham, occupation Master Looking more closely at 1822 Edward, he is alone aboard the boat and the vessel is called Margaret and Edward. I've tried (and so far failed) to find an Edward Martin, the wife and any of the children after 1861 to try and establish if there was one or two, although Gina has kindly looked up on the 51 for me. She found wife Margaret and the eldest child, she is classed as Sailors Wife and Shopkeeper. No Edward so assume he was at sea Could this be the same person and the wife gave his details to the enumerator even though he wasn't actually at home? Lou

Will try not to waffle too much!