Genealogy Chat

Have checked and think what you've found is right. Many thanks indeed! nell

Got information yesterday from Warwickshire Records Office. I had been trying to find out who Eliza Barns' parents were. She appears with her grandparents (my gt x3 grandparents Emmets & ELizab Matthews) on the 1861 Whichford, Warwicks census which says she was born in Armscott. Warks RO tracked her baptism down to Newbold on Stour - it gives her parents as John Barnes, a labourer & Charlotte. Charlotte is the name of one of Emmet's & Eliza's daughters, b. abt 1828, so that looked promising. Can I find a marriage between Charlotte & John? No. Can I find them together with their other children (George bapt 1855, Jane bapt 1858 or Ann bapt 1860? No, of course not!!!

Don´t know if I can help but willing to have a look !! Where or how have you found the siblings - George bapt 1855, Jane bapt 1858 or Ann bapt 1860? and where were they born ?

Have you been able to find Charlotte in 1851?? I see she isn't with her parents.........I tried all Charlottes born in Which*, and of course there was one (Matthews) but it wasn't her! I was just trying to decide which side of the 1851 census the marriage to John Barnes took place. Merry

Ah.....well this is your 1871 family in 1851.......... Charllett Barns abt 1830 Arcott, Warwickshire, England Wife Cherrington Warwickshire George Barns abt 1850 Stourton, Warwickshire, England Son Cherrington Warwickshire John Barns abt 1827 Stourton, Warwickshire, England Head Cherrington Warwickshire In 1871 son ''G'' was aged 20.........So despite the variable place names, is this them? Merry

Hmmmmmmmmmmm - hope this isn't the 1851/1871 family? Marriages Mar 1847 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>Barnes John Birmingham 16 304 BATCHELOR John Birmingham 16 304 Davis Susannah Birmingham 16 304 >>>>Farnsworth Charlotte Birmingham 16 304 Findon Elizabeth Ann Birmingham 16 304 Gillett James Birmingham 16 304 Hill Susan Birmingham 16 304 Jenkins John Birmingham 16 304 Merry

1861 Charlotte Burns abt 1831 Stourton, Warwickshire, England Wife Tredington Worcestershire George Burns abt 1851 Stourton, Warwickshire, England Son Tredington Worcestershire Jane Burns abt 1858 Armscott, Worcestershire, England Daughter Tredington Worcestershire John Burns abt 1827 Stourton, Warwickshire, England Head Tredington Worcestershire John Burns abt 1855 Armscott, Worcestershire, England Son Tredington Worcestershire Robert Burns abt 1853 Sherington, Warwickshire, England Son Tredington Worcestershire

? a birth for Robert Barnes, Robert Record Type: Births Quarter: March Year: 1853 District: Shipston on Stour County: Gloucestershire Warwickshire Worcestershire Volume: 6d Page: 509

John in 1871 John Barnes abt 1855 Arnscott, Worcestershire, England Servant Halford Warwickshire

Hi Nell For information there are many Barnes found in Avon Dassett, Warwickshire. Some moved to leamington Priors. Regards Kim.

BINGO !!! What about this one from free BMD Marriages Dec 1849 Baines John Shipston on .S. 11 583 Matthews Charlotte Shipston on S 11 583

OOh nice one Elaine!! I thought the one I found (apparently the wrong bride, above, somewhere!) was a bit early! Merry

Helen Hopes raised, hopes dashed - hopes raised again !!!!! ?????

Barbara, Merry, Kim, Elaine Many thanks for your contributions. I think the family found in 1861 looks promising, especially as Eliza is missing - with her grandparents. Tredington is a village near Armscott, and all the children were baptised in Newbold on Stour which is the nearest big place to these villages. Am off to take a good look at the images now - and the marriage looks v. promising too! nell

Cheers all, I think this is my lot, obviously confused about their birthplaces! Ancestry are a bit confused too, they seem to think Warwickshire and Worcestershire are the same county. It says Worcs in transcription and Warwickshire on census image in several cases! nell

Barbara Sadly the Eliza, servant in 1871 who looked so promising - the image shows 'she' is male and in the margin someone else has written 'Elijah'!