Genealogy Chat

This is a puzzling me, can you help? Below is the Hill family in 1851. Amongst their children is Edward, who was actually born in Old swinford worcs in 1844, and who died not long after, well before the 1851 census. So who is this Edward? There is an older daughter sarah, brn 1820, but I can't find any details for her. Ann Hill abt 1801 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England Wife Amblecote Staffordshire Edward Hill abt 1844 Amblecote, Staffordshire, England Son Amblecote Staffordshire Eliza Hill abt 1829 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England Daughter Amblecote Staffordshire Hannah Hill abt 1847 Amblecote, Staffordshire, England Daughter Amblecote Staffordshire Harriet Hill abt 1838 Bellbroughton, Worcestershire, England Daughter Amblecote Staffordshire John Hill abt 1833 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England Son Amblecote Staffordshire Joseph Hill abt 1801 Cradley, Worcestershire, England Head Amblecote Staffordshire Rose Hill abt 1836 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England Daughter Amblecote Staffordshire

How do you knwo that he died shortly afterwards?

All the children were born in old swinford. His christening is on the lds site, with details of his death

This is a puzzling me, can you help? Below is the Hill family in 1851. Amongst their children is Edward, who was actually born in Old swinford worcs in 1844, and who died not long after, well before the 1851 census. So who is this Edward? There is an older daughter sarah, brn 1820, but I can't find any details for her. Ann Hill abt 1801 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England Wife Amblecote Staffordshire Edward Hill abt 1844 Amblecote, Staffordshire, England Son Amblecote Staffordshire Eliza Hill abt 1829 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England Daughter Amblecote Staffordshire Hannah Hill abt 1847 Amblecote, Staffordshire, England Daughter Amblecote Staffordshire Harriet Hill abt 1838 Bellbroughton, Worcestershire, England Daughter Amblecote Staffordshire John Hill abt 1833 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England Son Amblecote Staffordshire Joseph Hill abt 1801 Cradley, Worcestershire, England Head Amblecote Staffordshire Rose Hill abt 1836 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England Daughter Amblecote Staffordshire hope you didn't mind easier to read jeanette

No, don't mind. What I should have said in original post was that although the children were/could heve been born elsewhere, they always came home to old swinford to be christened

Linda, the LDS site could easily have it wrong - check the source - it may well have been information contributed by a third party. As for the older sibling she would no doubt have married by then. There seems to be little mystery here.

Lynda - is the record on the LDS site an extracted record (usually pretty reliable) or a submitted one (sometimes utterly unreliable)

The info on the lds site is an extracted copy, so I think it is correct. Yes the elder child had married, but I did wonder if edward was hers, a grandson, not a son, but he is'nt. I can't find him on the 1861 census either

I've just checked the death register for January 1845 and the only two-year old Edward Hill died in Bethnal Green, so I don't know where the LDS site sourced their information. Looks like your Edward survived after all.

Lynda these are the children on the IGI showing for Joseph & Ann 1. MARY ANN HILL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 10 DEC 1826 Old Swinford, Worcester, England 2. ELIZA HILL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 17 AUG 1828 Old Swinford, Worcester, England 3. JOHN HILL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 04 AUG 1833 Old Swinford, Worcester, England 4. JAMES HILL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 05 OCT 1825 Old Swinford, Worcester, England 5. JAMES HENRY HILL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 13 JAN 1833 Old Swinford, Worcester, England 6. ROSE HILL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 04 OCT 1835 Old Swinford, Worcester, England 7. ELLEN HILL - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 17 APR 1831 Old Swinford, Worcester, England From the census info above it looks like the family moved to Staffordshire for a while and had 2 more children. Ann may have been pregnant when Edward died and she called the new child Edward which was common in those days. Georgina.

many thanks for your help. I will keep looking for him in 1861. Again many thanks

Lynda this is the family in 1861... Ann Hill abt 1801 Old Swinford, Worcestershire, England Wife Amblecote Staffordshire Edward Hill abt 1844 Amblecote, Staffordshire, England Son Amblecote Staffordshire Hannah Hill abt 1847 Amblecote, Staffordshire, England Daughter Amblecote Staffordshire Joseph Hill abt 1801 Cradley, Worcestershire, England Head Amblecote Staffordshire Source information: RG9/2068 Registration district: Stourbridge Sub-registration district: Stourbridge ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Folio: 48 Page: 10 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 44 GSU Number: 542912 Georgina.

Georgina, many many thanks. The LDS site has his death down on 6th Jan 1845, so they are wrong. again thanks

Lynda by 1871 Ann is a widow but Edward is still at home.. Ann Hill abt 1801 Old Swinford, Worcestershire, England Widow Old Swinford Worcestershire Edward Hill abt 1844 Old Swinford, Worcestershire, England Son Old Swinford Worcestershire Source information: RG10/3021 Registration district: Stourbridge Sub-registration district: Stourbridge ED, institution, or vessel: 21 Folio: 9 Page: 9 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 39 GSU Number: 838830 Georgina.

Many thanks for your time and help

The Edward Hill on the IGI who is down as dying in 1845 was baptised in August 1843 (not 1844). The other Edward is only born 1844 on the census - could also have been 1845. It seems most likely that a new baby was named after his recently dead brother. Anne