Genealogy Chat

hi could someone help me please. i have had an email back from manchester central library the archives dept regarding an entry for a marriage in a parish register in 1826. this is what they have said see below in a mo love linda x

I have looked up the marriage in the registers of St Chad, Rochdale, and the entry gives the following information: Edmund Schofield of Wicken hole of this parish, Weaver, and Betty Crossley of Bury of the Parish of Bury, Spinster, were married in this church by Banns 3rd September 1826 by me James Aspinall, Curate. Neither Edmund nor Betty signed the register, but instead left their mark. The witnesses were Thomas Fletcher and D. Nield, who, seeing as they were witnesses to other marriages at the church, were probably parish officials. I thought it might have given me the ages or dob of edmond but it hasnt but not only that i have never heard of wicken hole or parish of weaver !! can anyone shed any light onto where this is i know it must be around rochdale lancs but what would it be called today. and has anyone any suggestions for me finding edmonds birth.? thanks linda x

Hi Lindy - Weaver would have been the occupation of the bridegroom. Both parties must have been over 21. If they were under 21 their ages should have been given and the marriage would be 'with consent of parents'. For a bride and groom over 21 it is quite usual for the ages not to be given. Do you have his date of death? A death certificate should show his age at death which will enable you to work out his birth year.

Weaver is his occupation. Wicken Hole is presumably part of St Chad's parish (as he is ''of Wicken Hole'', but also ''of this parish'') Everything else is all you would expect to receive :o(( Merry

Wicken Hole gets a mention on the Saddleworth Historical Society website. Perhaps it is on Saddleworth Moor?

DOH!! what an idiot i got carried away - of course weaver is his occupation. i feel so stupid now. i dont have a death cert or date because he emmigrated to usa in 1848 as betty died c1847 . he took his family over to boston to other relatives. any idea how i can find his birth love linda x ps thanks to everyone for being tactful and not calling me an idiot . talk about stating the obvious, !!!

Have you found him on the 1841 census? This should give you a clue as to his age, at least to the nearest 5 years.

Oh whats up with me today. of course in 1841 his age is 35 and betty is 33 so that would make edmond around 1806. and betty about 1808 is that right . now how do i find out which edmond scholfield is the right one. ? you are all being really great . i am just being a bit of a duffer today - dont know why love linda x

Have had a quick look on the IGI and there seems to be quite a selection of them!!! Maybe you could get a clue from the names that he gave his children? He may have named one of his sons after his father? I am afraid that I don't know much about that area of the country so am not sure where the different parishes are. Is there by any chance an older couple in the same parish on the 1841 that might be his parents?

Marriages 1600-1800 for that parish are available online.Lancashire OPC Site.

Here are three possibles Birth: 02 JUL 1808 Christening: 20 SEP 1808 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Parents: Father: JOHN SCHOLFIELD Mother: MARY -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Birth: 19 JAN 1806 Christening: 02 MAR 1806 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Parents: Father: ROBERT SCHOLFIELD Mother: MARTHA -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Birth: 20 DEC 1804 Christening: 19 JAN 1805 Rochdale, Lancashire, England Parents: Father: SAMUEL SCHOLFIELD Mother: ANN --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

what site would i try for the marriges online for that parish ? thanks linda x

lancashire OPC-go to R for Rochdale-St chads is all there -some years are missing

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

thanks for all your help it really is appreciated. the idea of going with the names of eldest children doesnt work with the ones you have looked at his two eldest were james and elizabeth. i will have to trawl through them as best i can thanks alot for all your help love linda x x

well wouldnt you know it the years that i want on the lan opc for rochdale arent there - marriages stop at 1800 and the baptisms have the years from 1700 to 1813 missing its sods law love linda x