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From south to north - why?

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Sep 2025 14:49

I know Bramley well - my son lives there. ;-) ;-)

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 3 Sep 2025 08:53

Reading is in Berkshire, not Hampshire ( post 2/9 @ 19.15). Interestingly there is a Bramley in Hampshire, just south of Reading.

greyghost

greyghost Report 2 Sep 2025 22:36

Sadly, Alice Elizabeth died young

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1874 (>99%)
Waterton Alice Elizabeth 1 Rotherham 9c 384

and her siblings are with their Grandfather and Mother in Reading in 1891

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
34, Kings Road, St Lawrence, Reading, Berkshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Searle Head Widower Male 66 1825 Builder Berkshire, England
Clarina Waterston Daughter Widow Female 40 1851 House keeper Reading
Henry G Waterston Grandson - Male 14 1877 Scholar Gainsborough, Yorkshire, England
Charlotte Waterston Granddaughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Gainsborough, Yorkshire, England

From original - Henry and charlotte born in Greasborough - not Gainsborough

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Sep 2025 20:25

WATERTON, ALICE ELIZABETH SEARLE
GRO Reference: 1872 S Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 523

WATERTON, HENRY GEORGE SEARLE
GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 661

WATERTON, CHARLOTTE SEARLE
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in ROTHERHAM Volume 09C Page 621

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Sep 2025 20:17

This would appear to be the wedding in question

First name(s) William Henry
Last name Waterton
Spouse's age 24
Birth year 1846
Spouse's marital status -
Age 25
Spouse's residence 25, King's Road
Marital status -
Father's first name(s) Henry
Occupation Chemist
Father's other details [Notes] (dec'd)
Residence Rotherham, Yorks
Spouse's father's first name(s) George
Marriage year 1871
Spouse's father's occupation Builder
Marriage date 15 Jun 1871
Licence or banns By Banns
Church St Laurence
Witnesses George Searle; H. Searle; Jane Goswell; Jane Healy; W. G. Searle
Place Reading
Record set Berkshire Marriages Index
County Berkshire
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Country England
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Spouse's first name(s) Clarissa
Spouse's last name Searle

1871 census

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Village, North Side Chemist and Druggist, Greasbrough, Rotherham, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
William Hy Waterton Head - Male 25 1846 Chemist & dra? Bramley, Yorkshire, England
John Robt Walter Assistant - Male 22 1849 Chemist & dra? Kirkstead, Lincolnshire, England



1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Kings Road, St Lawrence, Reading, Berkshire, England
George Searle Head - Male 45 1826 Builder Warfield, Berkshire, England
Clarissa Searle Daughter - Female 24 1847 House keeper Reading, Berkshire, England
Henry W Searle Son - Male 19 1852 Bricklayer Reading, Berkshire, England
Walter G Searle Son - Male 16 1855 Plasterer Reading, Berkshire, England
Lydia Crimp Servant - Female 14 1857 Domestic servant London, Middlesex, England


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Butchers Shop, High St H Row, Hartley-Wintney, Hartley Wintney, Hampshire, England
William Darnell Head Married Male 51 1830 Butcher South Warnborough, Hampshire, England
Susan E Darnell Wife Married Female 36 1845 - Stratfield Turgis, Hampshire, England
Sidney G Darnell Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Hampshire, England
Louise Darnell Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - Hampshire, England
Elsie Darnell Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Hampshire, England
Marion Darnell Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Hampshire, England
Clarisa Waterton Nurse Widow Female 34 1847 Nurse (dom ser) Reading, Berkshire, England
Alice White Cook Single Female 20 1861 Cook (dom ser) Basingstoke, Hampshire, England
Rose Maynard Servant Single Female 14 1867 Housemaid (dom ser) Winchfield, Hampshire, England
Walter Robinson Servant Single Male 17 1864 General servant Bagshot, Surrey, England
Thomas Porter Servant Single Male 14 1867 General servant Odiham, Hampshire, England

FMP alerts me to having accessed the 1881 previously, so there must be an earlier thread

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Sep 2025 20:05

So the woman didn’t ’go north’ to marry - she married in her home area then moved, with her husband, to his area.
You still haven't given names..................................................

UmmMerlin

UmmMerlin Report 2 Sep 2025 19:15

My GGGrandmother was born in 1846 in Reading, Hampshire and my GGGrandfather was born in Bramley, Rotherham, South Yorkshire in 1845. They married in Reading in 1871.

So there's a possibility that he trained as a chemist in the south, married a local girl and then moved back to Yorkshire to literally, set up shop in Sheffield? I honestly can't think of any other reason...

When he died in 1878 she moved back south, to Reading/Basingstoke, to be with her family again.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Aug 2025 17:18

Stephanie

Did you ever make contact with Pauline Cook - as per an earlier thread of yours?

Also, if you want informed opinions regarding your question, names and dates are VITAL. Thank you

Andysmum

Andysmum Report 29 Aug 2025 16:54

AG, I think what will be even harder will be the number of couples these days who simply move in together and raise families. Even when they do get married they quite often carry on using different names, so no more "mother's maiden name".

My grandfather, from the Welsh valleys, met and married my grandmother, from a small village in Derbyshire. His sister had married a local schoolmaster who had taken a job as headmaster in the village school in Derbyshire and Grandpa was visiting them. "Simples" - when you know!!

OH's greatgrandfather was a manager in a coalmine in Lancashire and went to Cornwall to round up enough unemployed tin miners to keep the coalmine open while the regular miners were on strike!! I think that might be frowned on today. :-| :-|

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Aug 2025 11:46

Family tree research will become harder and harder.

Like most people's ancestors, most of mine lived and died close to where they were born.

But my parents, my brother and his two children, and I and my three children, were born in nine different places, and have not lived anywhere near where we were born, except in our early years.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 28 Aug 2025 10:56

My grandfather came from Wiltshire but married my grandmother in Co. Durham.

He moved for work and she'd moved with her parents from Yorkshire to Hartlepool in Co. Durham when her father got a job on the railways.

They married in 1907.

People in the early part of the last century moved a lot more than we would think.

Kath. x

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 28 Aug 2025 08:30

If it was wartime could the nurse have been evacuated along with her charges.

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Aug 2025 22:44

Married when? Could they have met wartime for example when either one or the other, or both, might well have been working away from their home turf.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Aug 2025 21:37

Equally, why not?

If she was ‘nurse’ in a family home, perhaps the family moved………….

Have you found both of them in all censuses?

In 1819, my relation born 1798 in Nottinghamshire married a woman born 1801 in Norfolk

nameslessone

nameslessone Report 27 Aug 2025 19:33

Are you saying she wasn’t a trained nurse but a ward assistant?

You probably.need to look at where they both trained.

UmmMerlin

UmmMerlin Report 27 Aug 2025 19:29

My GGgrandmother from Basingstoke, Hampshire went north to marry my GGgrandfather who was from just outside Sheffield. He was a chemist (or druggist), she was a nurse, tho this can also be interpreted as a 'carer' in modern times.

Why would she have married someone so far away?