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I think you need to get the marriage cert. This will hopefully give fathers name etc to help search early census years

got dob from 1891census and yes she would have been 15 and 16 when she had michael her first child hope i got right dates

1871

RG number: RG10
Piece: 5358
Folio: 51
Page: 22
Reg. District: Cardiff
Sub District: Cardiff
Parish: Cardiff (St John)
Enum. District: 6
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough: Cardiff
Address: Hills Terrace, Cardiff (St John), Cardiff
County: Glamorganshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
DALEY, Michael Head M 34 1837 Glamorgan
DALEY, Ann Wife F 30 1841 Glamorgan
DALEY, Michael Son M 7 1864 Glamorgan
DALEY, Thomas J Son M 2 1869 Glamorgan

?her death
Name: DALEY, Mary
Registration district: Cardiff
County: Glamorganshire
Year of registration: 1891
Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 23
Volume no: 11A
Page no: 154

1891
RG number: RG12
Piece: 4393
Folio: 107
Page: 54
Reg. District: Cardiff
Sub District: Cardiff
Parish: St Mary Cardiff
Enum. District: 27
Ecclesiastical District: All Saints
City/Municipal Borough: Cardiff
Address: 1, Rosemary Street, St Mary Cardiff, Cardiff
County: Glamorganshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
DALEY, Michael Head Married M 27 1864 Painter
Cardiff, Glamorganshire
DALEY, Mary Wife Married F 23 1868
Cardiff, Glamorganshire
DALEY, Michael Son Single M 7 1884 Scholar
Cardiff, Glamorganshire
DALEY, Catherine Daughter Single F 5 1886 Scholar
Cardiff, Glamorganshire

1901 a bit more info for above
RG number: RG13
Piece: 4980
Folio: 144
Page: 12
Reg. District: Cardiff
Sub District: Central Cardiff
Parish: St Mary
Enum. District: 23
Ecclesiastical District: All Saints
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 11, Ellen Street, St Mary
County: Glamorganshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
DALEY, Michael Head Widower M 62 1839 General Labourer
France British Subject
DALEY, Michael Son Widower M 37 1864 General Labourer
Cardiff, Glamorganshire
DALEY, Thomas Son Single M 33 1868 General Labourer
Cardiff, Glamorganshire
DALEY, Michael Nephew Single M 17 1884 General Labourer
Cardiff, Glamorganshire
DALEY, Catherine Niece Single F 15 1886
Cardiff, Glamorganshire

Sallyann.....Where did you get Mary's dob as 1868...?
That would make her only abt.15yrs when she married Michael Daley....
Are these your other grand/great grandparents....?

Nothing at all do do with your question but I wonder if Mary was of the same family as the following, given that she was Welsh. this is on the Welsh Gloucestershire border.

Wintour's Leap

Lower Wye Valley
Wintour's Leap is named after Royalist Sir John Wintour who hotly pursued on his horse by Parliamentary forces, survived a legendary leap off the cliff and, landing safely below, swam across the Wye to his safety in the nearby Chepstow Castle.

Probate -

Name: Michael Daley
Probate Date: 1 May 1930
Death Date: 23 Apr 1930
Death Place: Cardiff, Wales
Registry: Llandaff

Address 22 Ellen Street Cardiff
He left £403.9s.1d probate granted to George Jakeway, civil servant.

Same address
Name: Thomas Joseph Daley
Probate Date: 28 Mar 1950
Death Date: 2 Mar 1950
Death Place: Cardiff
Registry: Llandaff

Thomas Joseph otherwise Thomas 22 Ellen Street,Adamsdown Cardiff probate to John Sullivan, retired ships painter £247.16s

Births Mar 1884 (>99%)
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Daley Michael Cardiff 11a 324


Births Dec 1885 (>99%)
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Daley Catherine Cardiff 11a 347


(do the above Births fit?, 1891 image bit scrawly!, Find My Past has age 7 for Michael)


http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

(taken from above website)

Chris :)


http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

(to order Birth, Marriage, Death Certificates online, use above link)

Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%)
Daley Michael Cardiff 11a 500 xxxxxx
Duggan Ellen Cardiff 11a 500
Green William Cardiff 11a 500
Wintour Mary Jane Cardiff 11a 500 xxxxxx

1881 Wales Census about Ann Daley
Name: Ann Daley
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Michael Daley
Gender: Female
Where born: Cardiff
Civil parish: Cardiff St Mary
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: 27 Tyndal St
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: General Labourer Wife
Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5279
Folio: 152
Page Number: 104
Household Members:
Name Age
Michael Daley 40
Ann Daley 38
Michael Daley 17
Thos.Joseph Daley 13
John Daley 7
Mary E. Daley 5
Johanna Daley 2

1901 Wales Census about Michael Daley
Name: Michael Daley
Age in 1901: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: British Subject, France
Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Central Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 79
Piece: 4980
Folio: 144
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Michael Daley 62
Michael Daley 37
Thomas Daley 33
Michael Daley 17
Catherine Daley 15

His father

can you find anything on michael or marys parents

yes that is them that is as far as i can get with info :-)

1891 Wales Census about Mary Daley
Name: Mary Daley
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Michael Daley
Gender: Female
Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Cardiff
ED, institution, or vessel: 27b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4393
Folio: 107
Page Number: 54
Household Members:
Name Age
Michael Daley 27
Mary Daley 23
Michael Daley 9
Catherine Daley 5

Is this them?

am looking for info on a mary wintour born 1868 who married a michael daley had a daughter cathrine in 1886 any more info would be great :-)