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Brides in the bath - Bessie mundy

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Carol

Carol Report 8 Apr 2012 16:21

It is 100 years this year since Bessie Mundy was murdered in the bath by her husband Henry Williams (George Joseph Smith).
Although no connection with my Mundys has been found so far I have been researching the family.
In the various reports of proceedings Bessie's father is named as George Barclay Mundy of whom I can find no trace. I do have a George Bailey Mundy (who has a daughter Bessie and son George Howard)with brothers Herbert and Frank all mentioned in the proceedings.
Has anyone any information on George (Barclay/Bailey) Mundy?
I have census details from 1941 to 1901 if anyone interested.

jax

jax Report 8 Apr 2012 16:43

Have you tried the search trees to see if anyone else is researching this family?

Carol

Carol Report 8 Apr 2012 17:49

There doesn't seem to be anyone searchng George Bailey/Barclay Mundy on the trees

patchem

patchem Report 8 Apr 2012 17:56

Presumably this is the marriage:
Marriages Sep 1910
Mundy Bessie C A Weymouth 5a 672
Williams Henry Weymouth 5a 672

so this birth:
Births Jun 1875
MUNDY Bessie Constance A Warminster 5a 154

patchem

patchem Report 8 Apr 2012 18:00

1891 England Census
Bessie C A Mundy Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George B Mundy
Gender: Female Where born: Warminster, Wiltshire, England
Civil parish: Warminster Ecclesiastical parish: Warminster
Town: Warminster County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Registration district: Warminster Sub-registration district: Warminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Piece: 1609 Folio: 117 Page Number: 15
George B Mundy 52
Fanny E Mundy 41
George H Mundy 18
G Ernest J Mundy 17
Bessie C A Mundy 15
Florence E Carpenter 18
Elizabeth A Elloway 16
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1609; Folio: 117; Page: 15; GSU roll: 6096719.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 8 Apr 2012 18:46

According to court reports of the time her full name was Elizabeth Annie Constance Mundy.

It appears Smith was a serial bigamist who underwent several "marriages" to get his hands on women's money.

Carol

Carol Report 8 Apr 2012 19:40

Thank you all, I have all this information, if this is the family of George Barclay/Bailey Mundy.
Trying to find where 'Barclay' came from in the reports.

jax

jax Report 8 Apr 2012 20:30

Maybe Barclay was a mistranscription?

patchem

patchem Report 8 Apr 2012 21:35


Typical quote:
http://netk.net.au/BridesInTheBath/BridesInTheBath7.asp:
HERBERT MUNDY, examined by Mr. BODKIN
I am an auctioneer living at Westbourne Gardens, Trowbridge, Wiltshire. I had an elder brother, George Barclay Mundy, who died when he was about sixty-six years old. He was manager of a bank at Warminster, and he retired shortly before his death. He left two children, George Howard Mundy and Bessie Constance Annie Mundy. My nephew, George, and I were the executors under his will. Bessie benefited to the extent of £2500 by his will, and that sum was invested in trust securities. She lived at home with her father up to the time of his death. When her father died she would be about twenty-five years of age.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Apr 2012 21:50

Name: George Bailey Mundy
Probate Date: 14 Feb 1905
Death Date: 11 Dec 1905
Death Place: Wiltshire, England
Registry: Salisbury


This one says he was a bank manager

jax

jax Report 8 Apr 2012 21:54

Maybe his brother was confused and it was Barclays bank he worked for??

patchem

patchem Report 8 Apr 2012 21:59

jax,
Brilliant lateral thinking.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Apr 2012 04:55

jax may just be right!!!!


from ancestry


England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about George Bailey Mundy

Name: George Bailey Mundy
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1839
Christening Date: 28 Mar 1839
Christening Place: Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Father's Name: George Mundy
Mother's Name: Eliza



sylvia

jax

jax Report 9 Apr 2012 05:06

They lived above the Bank in the 1891 and 1901 census's which was 42 Market place....it does not seem to be on the 1911 census so maybe the branch moved?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Apr 2012 05:10

and here is the reason for his second name


England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about George Mundy

Name: George Mundy
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Eliza Bailey
Marriage Date: 26 Oct 1836
Marriage Place: Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England



as so often happens, he is the eldest son, and has been given the maiden name of his mother as his second name .....................


1841 Census

Name: George B Mundy
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Male
Where born: Wiltshire, England

Civil parish: Trowbridge
Hundred: Melksham
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Registration district: Melksham
Sub-registration district: Trowbridge

George Mundy 30 Clerk
Eliza Mundy 20
Maria Louisa Mundy 3
George B Mundy 2
Mary Jane Mundy 6 Mo





SO ...... Barclay is a mis-transcription!



sylvia

Carol

Carol Report 9 Apr 2012 09:09

Thank you all so much for your help.
For the record, George Bailey Mundy was one of 8 known children and their father George Mundy was also a Bank Manager of the Wiltshire and Dorset Bank.
George Bailey (widowed after a relatively short time) had three known children, Bessie, George Howard and Ernest, none of whom had any children.
:-)

Quoy

Quoy Report 10 Apr 2012 07:17

from 1875 through to at least 1900

Copy of Returns
Wilts and Dorset Banking Company

George Bailey Mundy Warminster Gentleman