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Army record information please

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Toni

Toni Report 5 Dec 2011 06:28

Can anyone please tell me how I can gain more information about someone whose Army service pay book (which includes the name, regiment, squadron and soldier's number) I have in my possession. The pay book, together with other items: a small French dictionary, The Pocket Gospel of St. John and a leather wallett/cigarette case have what looks like a bullet hole going through them. I would like to find out what happened to the soldier and possibly return the items to his descendants. With thanks, Toni

Quoy

Quoy Report 5 Dec 2011 06:41

Morning Toni

If the items are WW1 his records may be on Ancestry.
WW2 may be on PRO
CWGC site might be worth a look.
Contacting the regiment.
Doing his tree
Putting his name into search tree's

Susan

Susan Report 5 Dec 2011 07:21

Toni

If it is WW1 post the name and his no and I am sure one of us would look him up for you.

Suex

Toni

Toni Report 6 Dec 2011 09:48

Hi everyone and thank you for advice. Susan thanks for the offer of looking this up for me.

Details as in Soldier's Pay Book are as follows:

Name in full: George Strudwick
Regiment or Corps: 17th Bn, Sherwoood Foresters (was 6th T F Res.
- but this is crossed out)
Squadron, Battery, or Company: C. Coy
Date of Attestation: 7.4.16
Date and Station: Granthorpe, Lincs

I also have a photo but I'm not sure how to attach this.

Any help will be grateful appreciated. Toni

Perchino

Perchino Report 6 Dec 2011 22:18

No casualty of that name on Commonwealth War Graves site.

Station may be Grainthorpe, Lincs

Toni

Toni Report 6 Dec 2011 22:43

Thanks for this Perchino - very kind. Well that's a relief (not showing as casualty in Commonwealth War Graves), but doesn't explain what looks like a bullet hole in documents and wallet. Yes, sorry station is Grainthorpe - a bit of a typo on my part!

Susan

Susan Report 7 Dec 2011 08:45

Hi Toni

There is nothing coming up on Ancestry for him that I can see at the moment.
Do you have his enlistment no it should be with the doc's that you have ,it may help someone else look as well.

Was there an age for him anywhere........ address, or any other info you may have with you can help .
Sue

Quoy

Quoy Report 7 Dec 2011 09:52

Hi Toni

There is a very helpful chap at Chetwynd Barracks Chilwell who is the curator of the Sherwood Foresters Regiment , give him a ring

0115 9465415

Quoy

Quoy Report 7 Dec 2011 10:02

I think this is his medal card on Ancestry

George Strudwick
Regiment or Corps: Nott & Derby Reg
Regimental Number: 70296

this
270 Strudwick, George Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Regiment 70296 Private

from
http://www.hut-six.co.uk/GreatWar/ND7xxxx.html

Quoy

Quoy Report 7 Dec 2011 10:09

this could be him but I do not have full access to the 1911

HOUSEHOLD STRUDWICK GEORGE WILLIAM M 1892 19 East Retford Nottinghamshire

Perchino

Perchino Report 7 Dec 2011 21:31

Have you tried a pm to this member who is really good on tracing Armed Forces:

George of Westbury

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 7 Dec 2011 21:37

That 1911:

KIPPAX, Ernest William Head Married M 31 1880 Tobacconist Shopkeeper Retford Notts
KIPPAX, Margaret Wife Married F 22 1889 Lincoln Lincs
KIPPAX, Verona Margaret Daughter F 1 1910 Retford Notts
STRUDWICK, George William Brother In Law Single M 19 1892 Asisstant In Shop Lincoln Lincs
WHALEY, Doris Servant F 13 1898 Servant Nurse Girl Retford Notts
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Registration District: East Retford
Sub District: East Retford
Enumeration District: 11
Parish: Ordsall

Address: 73 Queen St Retford County: Nottinghamshire

Toni

Toni Report 9 Dec 2011 22:24

Thanks for this Susan, Quoy, Perchino & MarieCeleste. There is an ID no. in the Army pay book (sorry, I did mean to include this), but I have stupidly left documents at work. I will post details on Monday. One question Perchino, I couldn't understand your message - have you tried a pm (?) etc. Would you mind explaining. Unfortunately, MarieCeleste, the info you've given doesn't seem to match. George was married (last Will & testament at back of Army pay book states his wife's name as Mrs G Strudwick (no maiden name), living in Woking, Surrey - part of address missing where hole goes through book. Thanks again, Toni

Joy

Joy Report 9 Dec 2011 23:06

There are two possible marriages in free BMD in the Surrey area.

George_of_Westbury

George_of_Westbury Report 9 Dec 2011 23:07

Hello Toni

Perchino was meaning for you to send me a personal message, youcan send personal messages by clicking on a members name on the thread.

However just to advise you i have been following this thread, and i cant see/find any more info that has already been found.

I would suggest you follow the advice given by Quoy and ring the Curator at the museum, thats a good bet.

You could als try The Great War Forum, there are many experts on there


here is the link it is free but you have to register.

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?act=idx





George

Perchino

Perchino Report 11 Dec 2011 19:29

1901 Census:

Address Sutton Westfield Sq
Civil Parish Woking
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Peters
Parliamentary Borough or Division North Western Chertsey Division Of Surrey
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Woking
Administrative County Surrey

Householder 1
Name Albert Strudwick
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 12
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Surrey Guildford
Language
Infirmity

Householder 2
Name Elizabeth Strudwick
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 4
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Surrey Woking
Language
Infirmity

Householder 3
Name George Strudwick
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 11
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Surrey Guildford
Language
Infirmity

Householder 4
Name Harry Strudwick
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 6
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Surrey Guildford
Language
Infirmity

Householder 5
Name Levi Strudwick
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 42
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Bricklayer
Employment Status
Where Born Surrey Guildford
Language
Infirmity

Householder 6
Name Lucy Strudwick
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 33
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Hants Foxfield
Language
Infirmity

Householder 7
Name Robert Strudwick
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage
Age Last Birthday 0
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Surrey Woking

Toni

Toni Report 15 Dec 2011 06:45

Ooh, Perchino, this looks promising. I still haven't brought documents home from work (it's been very busy, being so close to Christmas break up) for the ID number in George's Army pay record, but this has reminded me and I will do today. Thank you very much for searching this. Have a good day. Toni