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Urwins 3rd Daughter?

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Allan

Allan Report 1 Nov 2010 12:27

Hello All
I have a tough one to solve and i am hoping someone will help me solve the following.

Armstrong Urwin married Jane Douglas in 1797 at Newcastle, they had 5? children, Robert, John, Jane and Eleanor, on the baptism of Eleanor born 1809 at Byker the parish records state the 'Eleanor is the the 3rd Daughter of Armstong Urwin and Jane Douglas, i just cant seem to find the the 3rd Daughter.

Maybe someone can help.

Thanks
Allan

Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 1 Nov 2010 13:20

tree on ancestry



Jane Douglas mother
1768 – 1852

James Urwin
1797 –

Jane Tiplady
>>>>>1797 Ryton Durham – 1874Wear, Maluku, Indonesia

absolutely no idea how they reached that !

Jane Urwin
1801 – 1880

John Urwin
1803 –

Thomas Urwin
1808 –

Eleanor Urwin
1809 – 1895

Researching:
For better results please give all the details ,name, date place as you can {pictures by me }

Allan

Allan Report 1 Nov 2010 13:58

Thanks Lindsey, can you please tell me who put the family on Ancestry, i did not know there was a Thomas Urwin born 1808.

Thanks
Allan

Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 1 Nov 2010 14:06

Sanderson2 family tree>>sanderson 2 Family Tree Raynor 19421

there are 9 other trees with vaying children too

Researching:
For better results please give all the details ,name, date place as you can {pictures by me }

Allan

Allan Report 1 Nov 2010 14:12

Thanks Lindsey, Eleanor Uwin is my line, i shall see if i have any info on the Sanderson family tree?

Allan

Allan

Allan Report 1 Nov 2010 14:13

yes i think Armstrong was illigetimate

Allan

Allan Report 1 Nov 2010 14:25

because Jane Urwin born 1801 married Henry Turnbull in 1830 at st Johns Newcastle and on the 1841 census it states Armstrong Urwin is living with his grandparents Armstrong and Jane.

Allan

Allan

Allan Report 1 Nov 2010 14:28

Thanks i have that, can you please see if there is an e-mail addresses for the family trees you have seen as they may have more info than i have,

Allan

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 1 Nov 2010 15:15

This is from BVRI:

URWIN, Armstrong Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 16 Nov 1822 Recorded in: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Collection: All Saints
Mother: Jane URWIN
Source: FHL Film 1068962 Dates: 1799 - 1828

This looks like the same one that Corrinne posted, day & month is the same but year is 2 years out.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Allan

Allan Report 1 Nov 2010 15:22

Thanks Margaret
i know i have seen this, i think he was born 1824.

Regards
Allan

Potty

Potty Report 1 Nov 2010 16:22

Corrinne,

I think this is what Allan is saying:

The Jane born 1801 and mother of Armstrong, b1824, was the daughter of Armstrong Urwin and Jane Douglas who married in 1797

Allan

Allan Report 2 Nov 2010 08:49

yes Jane Urwin was married to Richard Errrington who died in 1794 while at sea, she married Armstrong Urwin in 1797, The Henry Urin name seems to be a red Herring as far as i can see.

Thanks
Allan

Allan

Allan Report 2 Nov 2010 11:13

Hi Corinne, the Eleanor Urwin marriage of my line is to John Robson they were married Nov 1826 at Lamesley, another possibilty for the 3rd daughter is this, when Jane Douglas nee Errington, nee Urwin was married to Richard Errington there was daughter ann birn 1793, i have yet to find out what happened to her?

Allan

Allan Report 2 Nov 2010 12:47

Sorry i confused you, Ann Errington was the Janes daiughter was by her 1st Husband Richard Errington who died at sea, i dont know if she survived as a baby, Mary Urwin is a possibilty but the Henry Urwin entry is suspect, i think henry and Armstrong were brothers and thats were the confusion is.

Regards
Allan

Allan

Allan Report 2 Nov 2010 14:18

Hi Corinne , i dont mean to confuse you, Jane was born in 1801 at Byker Newcastle,
Jane Douglas married Richard Errington at Lamesley in 1790, he dies 1794 ish she married Armstrong Urwin in 1797, it has been made complicated by the person who registerd Henry Urwin as Janes Husband.

Quoy

Quoy Report 2 Nov 2010 18:35

The Newcastle Courant etc (Newcastle-upon-Tyne, England), Friday, January 27, 1854
Deaths
At Jarrow in Front Row on the 17th inst Ralph Armstrong infant son of Mr.Armstrong Urwin blacksmith

Allan

Allan Report 3 Nov 2010 08:44

Hi Quoy
Thanks for the info.

Regards
Allan