Genealogy Chat

Could anyone tell me please is the 1901 census on the Ancestry edition that you use in the public libraries any different from what you get if you purchase an ancestry subscription?

I have tried every permutation I can think of trying to find my Great-grandfather Edward Noble b 1869 Newcastle upon Tyne. I have found his wife Henrietta living in Alnwick with their two children but no Edward. He didn’t die until 1953 and was with his wife until she died in 1952. His occupation was engineer so he could have been working way from home.

Not found him yet in 1901 but here he is in 1911

1911 census transcription details for: Narrowgate Alnwick
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN31081 RG78PN1778 RD565 SD2 ED5 SN102

Reg. District: Alnwick Sub District: Alnwick
Parish: Alnwick Enum. District: 5
Address: Narrowgate Alnwick
County: Northumberland
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
NOBLE, Edward Head Married M 41 1870 Engineer Fitter And Turner Iron Northumberland Newcastle
NOBLE, Henrietta Wife Married 14 years F 36 1875 Northumberland Newcastle
NOBLE, John Son M 12 1899 School Northumberland Alnwick
NOBLE, Mary Daughter F 10 1901 School Northumberland Alnwick
NOBLE, Annie Daughter F 7 1904 School Northumberland Alnwick
NOBLE, Thomas Son M 4 1907 Northumberland Alnwick
NOBLE, Emily Daughter F 2 1909 Northumberland Alnwick
NOBLE, Henrietta Daughter F 1 1910 Northumberland Alnwick
NOBLE, Margaret Mother Widow F 58 1853 West Meath Mullingar Ireland Resident

There should be no difference!

What was his parents names?

There shouldn't be any difference betweeen the Ancestry editions but at times there is. The library edition at times runs very slow and you are unable to find the info you are looking for,.This makes you look as a kind of an idiot when you are supposed to be an expert in helping someone to trace their family tree
On my return from my afternoon at the Local Studies I can usually find what I have been looking for on Ancestry in a matter of minutes on my own Computer

Hello everyone who answered me and sorry about the delay in getting back I had unexpected visitors and had to switch off.

Barbara - thank you so much for 1911 info, Annie was my Nana.

Marinonfromscotland - His parents were John d 1897 and Mary d 1890
Margaret who is down as his mother was in fact his stepmother who was also is wife's mother.

Sylvia and Bren thank you for your input and I agree that the library edition does get slow.

So I wonder where was he!.

In the 1901 census there is an Edward Noble aged 30 living at 15 Newgate Street , Morpeth - south of Alnwick. He is described as a plumber and is living with his family including Thomas his father a plumber. Could it be a family firm and he was commuting during the week?

Couldn't make copy and paste work - but I found him on the GR access to the 1901 census.

Is this the one you found Elizabeth??


from ancestry


1901 Census

Name: Edward Noble
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Morpeth, Northumberland, England

Civil parish: Morpeth
Ecclesiastical parish: Morpeth St Mary the Virgin
Town: Morpeth
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Registration district: Morpeth
Sub-registration district: Morpeth

Thomas Noble 61 b.ca 1840, Morpeth, Plumber, Employer
Margaret Noble 59 b.ca 1842, Morpeth
Elizabeth Noble 31
Edward Noble 30 Plumber (worker)
Bartholomew Noble 26 b. Blyth, Grocer
Margaret Noble 18


Address:- 15 Newgate Street



ooops ..... no it isn't,

a) his occupation is wrong
b) because the 1911 says Margaret was born in Ireland, and
c) his father was called JOHN and had died in 1897



Anyway, that has ruled this one out!!!!



sylvia

Was his mother Mary English,married before to a Dodds?
I found this on the 1881 with a Stepson ??Dodds.



Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John NOBLE Head M Male 43 Nether Whitton, Northumberland, England Millwright
Mary NOBLE Wife M Female 46 Longhirst, Northumberland, England
Matthew DODDS Stepson U Male 23 Morpeth, Northumberland, England Iron Moulder
Robert E. NOBLE Son U Male 16 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England Butcher
Annie NOBLE Daur Female 14 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England
Edward NOBLE Son Male 11 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England Scholar
Johnina NOBLE Daur Female 5 Newcastle On Tyne, Northumberland, England Scholar
James KNAPP Boarder U Male 29 Surrey, England Venetian Blind Maker
Robert ENGLISH Boarder W Male 41 Longhirst, Northumberland, England Labourer
Edward HEIR Boarder U Male 30 Morpeth, Northumberland, England Clerk
George WHITE Boarder U Male 29 Bristol, Gloucester, England Cashier
Jane DODDS Other U Female 15 Scotland General Servant

Elizabeth and Sylvia what a shame that it wasn't the right Edward. Thanks heaps for trying.

Yes, MarionfromScotland that is them on the 1881 census. By the 1891 census there is John widowed with son Edward and daughter Johnina. I have followed Edward's family through the censuses but not found him as I said on the 1901.
I have found the family transcribed in various census as Wible and Mable.

Many thanks to one and all for having a look for me.

Have you tried looking for him with just his initials. He might be a patient in Hospital or Jail

Hi quinsgran, yes, I tried that but got nothing conclusive.
Thanks for your suggestion.

I've been looking too, even in to other trees but theres nothing.

MarionfromScotland,
thanks for trying - it is so frustrating when you know he is somewhere out there.

Try searching by profession........putting plumber or engineer in the keyword box at th bottom.

Malcolm.

Malcolm - Ancestry doesn't transcribe the occup (except 1881), so that won't work.

Hi Malcolm, thanks for suggestions