Genealogy Chat

any one help i have just returned from carlow ireland and i visited the church were william fenelon was christened in 184 the priest gave me a copy of the church entry william was the son of edward fenelon and catherine kinsella his godparents were john sinnot and margeret foley it is very possible he came from myshall as i visited the graveyards there and most of the headstones relate to fenelon families when edward married catherine i dont know as she may have been from another parish but any info would greatly help like edward fenelons parents and also catherine kinsellas birthplace thanks to any one who helps

i would like to know if possible edwards date of birth maybe an address in carlow williams father edward also his parents names any help with their irish roots will be a help as i am traveling to carlow this month thanks paul fenlon

Paul....I have checked the Irish in L.Pool (1851)..I dont have the Census per se and there are a number of Fenlons Co.Carlow listed not least an Edward and a William ..(Dock labourers...)..If you can check or get someone to check for you it may be of help.

Evening Paul.....
Given that William was born 1844 and married to Mary Conway in L.Pool by 1860 (which would make him barely 16yrs.old) and she no doubt younger I would check the MC and see what ages are ages stated...Both would have had to have parental permission for the marriage and it may be worthyour while to check and see if either or both sets of parents were in L.Pool at the time...

i would like to know if possible edwards date of birth maybe an address in carlow edwards parents names i do think that william married twice in 1861 to an irish girl called mary conway as i have a marrige cert and i think they had a baby called michael he shows living with william and mary in liverpool 1861 census michael is shown age 7months his surname shows conwayany help withthe irish roots will be a help as i am traveling to carlow this month thanks paul fenlon
williams wifes were mary conway 1860 then margaret corcoran 1881 she was my great grand mother the 1911 census show that williams birth place was lackabag in kildavin

Paul....
Can you please supply the info. you may have regarding the "Fenelons"....(15.9.09)..
It is difficult to know what you are after wanting and what you already have...(Birth of William Fenelon parents Edward Fenelon and Catherine Kinsella) what source did you obtain the "new info" .

"Some" other children born to Edward Fenelon and Catherine Kinsella...

Baptisms..

August 18th 1837. Anne.
September 20th 1840. Edward
April 26th 1844 William (Your g.grandfather)

hi william fenelon born april 1844 in lackabeg kildavin his father was edward fenelon and mother catherine kinsella

Paul...Can you list all you have in relation to Wm.Fenlon....eg where he was on 1881 Census...who were his wives....were did you get his place of Birth from..?

There were dozens of Fenlons in the Co.Carlow but I haven't found any as yet in the Kildaven area...
Kildaven is a Townland in the Barony of St.Mullens Upper... Civil Parish Barragh... Poor Law Union... Shillelagh.

List what you have and we can take it from there..

WILLIAM FENLON MY G/GRANDAD BORN 1843C KILDAVIN CARLOW ANY HELP PLEASE PAUL

Paul, please read through each of the Irish tips threads that I brought forward for you.

this is the right william however there is no mention of his birth place in ireland on either of his marrige certs am i at a standstill or is there a direction i can look at to help thanks paul

From Lancashire BMD, possibly his first marriage:

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1860
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
FENLON William CONWAY Mary Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended

There seems to be someone with that name on the 1861, 1881, 1891 and 1901 census.

Did he marry twice? There's someone with that name and age married to Mary Conway? and then on later census records to someone called Margaret?


Edit: if it is the same person, perhaps one of the marriage certificates may give further clues although you seem to know the name of his father.

Please read the tips threads that I brought forward for you as promised.

found him on 1881 census and the 1901 census i know the history of his children ie my grandad but his roots are a mystery to me all i have is born ireland thanks paul

have you found him on census records? Does it mention where he was born?

can anyone help trying to find g/grandfather born ireland 1843c his name william fenlon his father was edward fenlon ho w do i find his homeland no records on his marrige cert show were he was from but he must have had roots in ireland tahnks paul