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To K : it might be worth me getting Laura's marriage certificate as that would have John/Jack/Abraham's parents names on there and would give me confirmation of that link. Thank you for finding the marriage details - much appreciated.

Expert advice required here: I found a document which is for Mariners.
It states: John Toovey #452883, born at Wickham, presumably a dob 4/06/1841?
Capacity - Seaman, height 5'8" tall, black hair, blue eyes, dark complexion, age when ticketed 18, can read and write

How would I find out further info re this person to find out if there is a link to my lot?
Have a look at the births/baptisms?

Any suggestions welcome

cc Chris Ho - that is why this man is so darn tricky to trace - a man of 1000 names

cc Prickly Holly - I have the documents that you have mentioned. It has been a long hard journey working back from his death certificate, which does not have a lot of detail on it.

He definately lead an exciting life :-D

Thomas Edwards tried to murder John/Abraham Toovey.......

GRAHAMSTOWN 6th April 1875

At the resident Magistrates Court this morning, a packer named Thomas Edwards was charged with shooting with intent to kill and murder, one John Toovey. The accused went to Toovey's whare, nine miles from town, on Sunday, and fired a pistol loaded with shot, which wounded him in the leg below the knee. Edwards suspected Toovey of having seduced his wife from home some time ago. The accused was remanded, pending the recovery of Toovey to give evidence.

I will send you the image if you don't already have it?

A copy of Abraham's death cert is on Ancestry......died 29th Dec 1879

Also a Newspaper article....NZ Herald dated 5th Jan 1880 (Inquest re his drowning)

I will send you those documents also if you don't already have them?

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=NZH18890824.2.3.7&srpos=4&e=-------10--1----2woolbeding--

(he seems to also be John!)

Chris :)

To Prickles, well that's where it gets all a bit tricky.
He lived as husband and wife in NZ, with Jemima Edwards nee Jenkins.

They never actually married. Technically because she was married to Thomas Harris Edwards.

They fell in love and ran away together from Thames goldfields. They later settled together in Warkworth.

On documentation that relates to him he states he was single, but I have not found anything that states otherwise. i.e a previous marriage

Hello Kelly

Who, when and where did your Abraham Toovey (Sister of Laura West nee Toovey) marry?

Prickles.

Thank you very much for your response. The links to the Toovey family (Abraham Toovey) was what I was trying to establish.
The information that you have provided is fantastic, I really appreciate your help

Robert Toovey in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Robert Toovey
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 4 Jan 1765
Baptism Place: Hambleden, Buckingham, England
Father: Robert Toovey
Mother: Mary


Robt. Toovey in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Robt. Toovey
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 14 Nov 1790
Marriage Place: Hambleden, Buckingham, England
Spouse: Bett White


Robert Toovey in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
Name: Robert Toovey
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 30 Aug 1810
Burial Place: Hambleden, Buckingham, England

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Abraham Toovey in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Abraham Toovey
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 18 Oct 1828
Marriage Place: Whitchurch, Hampshire, England
Spouse: Lydia Dear




Abraham Toovey in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Abraham Toovey
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 15 Dec 1803
Baptism Place: Hambleden, Buckingham, England
Father: Robert Toovey
Mother: Bett


Robt. Toovey in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Robt. Toovey
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 14 Nov 1790
Marriage Place: Hambleden, Buckingham, England
Spouse: Bett White

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Abraham Toovey
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 15 Dec 1803
Baptism Place: Hambleden, Buckingham, England
Father: Robert Toovey
Mother: Bett


Abraham Toovey in the 1851 England Census
Name: Abraham Toovey
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Hambledon, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Fareham
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Fareham
Sub-registration district: Fareham

Household Members:

Abraham Toovey 47(Carpenter)
Isaac Toovey 18
Walter Toovey 10
Jane Parker 35 (Housekeeper)
Jane Parker 9
Emma Parker 7
Henry C Parker 5

Death of wife......

Deaths Sep 1842 (>99%)
TOOVEY Lydia Fareham 7 53


Lydia Toovey in the England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
Name: Lydia Toovey
Gender: Female
Burial Date: 21 Aug 1842
Burial Place: Holy Trinity, Fareham, Hampshire, England

??

Lydia Dear in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Lydia Dear
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 22 Jul 1810
Baptism Place: Droxford,Hampshire,England
Father: Thomas Dear
Mother: Emily

Welcome to the Community boards Kelly.



(I'll let Kelly know how to find her replies) :-)

Laura West in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
Name: Laura West
Probate Date: 8 Oct 1908
Registry: Chichester
Death Date: 15 Sep 1908
Death Place: Sussex, England

Of Bepton, Sussex widow.......To Edwin Damp scripture reader and Mary Ann Elizabeth West spinster.

Effects: £555 6d 11d

Laura West in the 1901 England Census
Name: Laura West
Age: 63
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Fareham, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Bepton
Ecclesiastical parish: Bepton
Town: Bepton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Midhurst
Sub-registration district: Harting

Household Members:

Laura West 63
Annie West 22 (Niece)

Res: Farm House


Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%)
WEST Laura 71 Midhurst 2b 215

The Toovey family in1841?

Name: Abraham Toovey
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Fareham
Hundred: Fareham Division
County/Island: Hampshire
Registration district: Fareham
Sub-registration district: Fareham
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 389
Book: 4
Folio: 33
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Abraham Toovey 35
Lydia Toovey 30
Abraham Toovey 11
Isaac Toovey 9
Alfred Toovey 6
Matilda Toovey 4
Lora Toovey 3
Walter Toovey 14 Months

Marriages Jun 1878
Toovey Laura Midhurst 2b 689
WEST James Midhurst 2b 689

This looks like Laura in 1891 - The address is Heath ?? Farm

Name: Laura West
Age: 53
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James West
Gender: Female
Where born: Fareham, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Woolbeding
Ecclesiastical parish: Woolbeding
Town: Woolbeding
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Registration district: Midhurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 847
Folio: 175
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
James West 60 Farmer b Fernhurst, Sussex,
Laura West 53
Annie West 12 Niece

I have found a newspaper article in the NZ herald dated 24.8.1889 which states AbrahamTOOVEY, any person knowing his whereabouts please communicate with his sister Laura WEST of Heath Farm, Woolbeding, Midhurst, Sussex, England.

I am trying to find any leads/links to the Toovey/West family to my chap in NZ.

Could someone please do a Census lookup?

Many kind regards if you are able to help me track further information