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hi mike

thanks for your reply
i did not let the other persons tree throw me because emily might have been married before ? and i wasa not aware of this marriage but i have found out with the help of people she was only married once to alfred wills

thanks again

I'll bet Mike is right and the person just doesn't know how to read the information in the marriages index! ... and isn't closely enough related to actually care, they just wanted names for their tree ...

if somebody has different info it is always wise to double check but often it is a lesson in not trusting family trees on line :-)

when I first started investigating my father's family I only knew who his grandfather was and not who his grandfather's parents were ... I found them in the censuses so I knew their first names, say John and Mary Smith

I found someone who had them in their family tree that gave Mary's surname and thought how lucky I was that someone knew that ... until I started investigating further ...

it turned out that the person whose tree it was, was only 'related' to John and Mary because one of John and Mary's children had married ... well, you know, the fourth cousin three times removed of the person whose tree it was

the person had just picked the first 'John Smith and Mary' marriage they saw in the right neighbourhood and stuck it in their tree ... it was the wrong John and Mary altogether

... and then it took me a year to get the person to fix their tree so others were not equally misled :-)

hi rambling rose

i have sent her a message with the details of alice passant and charles hatt
and with the message that it will help in her family tree
thanks again :-)

As Emily & Charles are the first 2 names on the index, the other person has probably assumed they married each other.

As you have the marriage cert I'm surprised you let the other person's tree throw you.

Seagate I would think the other member has just looked at the index and 'picked' a spouse, without buying the certificate ( or posssibly just copied info from someone else's tree ).

I am sure that they will be happy to have the correct details of the marriage :-)

hi
thanks for all replies
i have looked at the marriage cert for alfred wills/emily cushway which i have a copy at home and it is correct they married in 1898. so it could be other person who said emily was married to charles hatt is in correct? ia have looked at her tree but just have names of emily and charles but no married details i have contacted the other person and asked the question about charles and are awaiting reply

thanks again for your help

and just for further confirmation of who married who

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Alice Maud Passant
Name: Alice Maud Passant
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Age: 21
Spouse: Charles Hatt
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Jul 1898
Parish: St Peter, Walworth
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Cornelius Passant
Spouse Father: Charles Hatt
Register Type: Parish Register

there is only one possible Wills + Cushway marriage in the index, the one I copied above

(edit ... and Rambling Rose has confirmed)

there are no Hatt-Cushway births after 1911

there are these Wills-Cushway births

Births Dec 1915
Wills Albert W Cushway Poplar 1c 758
Births Mar 1920
Wills Reginald H Cushway Camberwell 1d 2134

so it rather looks as if Emily Cushway married Alfred Wills


this could be them in 1911

Name: Emily Wills
Age in 1911: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Mother
Gender: Female
Birth Place: WALWORTH, England
Civil Parish: Poplar
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 50 Appian Rd, Old Ford, Bow
Registration district: Poplar
Registration District Number: 22
Sub-registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Piece: 1676

Alfred Wills 33 born Walworth, occupation Hawker
Emily Wills 32
Alfred Wills 12
James Wills 7
Emily Wills 5


surely you had a reason for deciding that Emily Cushman married Alfred Wills ...

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Emily Cushway
Name: Emily Cushway
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Age: 19
Spouse: Alfred Wills
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 31 Jul 1898
Parish: St Peter, Walworth
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: James Alexander Cushway
Spouse Father: Richard Wills
Register Type: Parish Register

seagate, if you can see the tree then the person whose tree it is has allowed you to view it, so you are in contact

as Shirley says, have you asked them?


Marriages Sep 1898
Cushway Emily St. Saviour 1d 176
Hatt Charles St. Saviour 1d 176
Passant Alice Maud St. Saviour 1d 176
WILLS Alfred St.Saviour 1d 176


the only way to be positive which bride married which groom is to see the marriage certificate

I'm not seeing any couples in the 1911 census that would seem to establish who married whom


if you would give the details of Emily Cushman that you have and that no one else here knows anything about, so that someone else could search for her in the censuses with a husband, someone might be able to help

no point in saying 'details is the same on my tree' and 'parents match up' when we don't know what those details are or who those parents are, so we can't investigate at all

Why not contact the person and ask if they are the same couple