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mgnv

Thank you for the links.

I read about the Maria Rye Homes and it sounds as if they were very controversial

I find iteasier to search the census on Ancestry, rather than the LAC site, so I search the 1881 at:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1577
I search for Georg* K*b*r*y born 1866 +/-2 and get 2 hits:

Name Home in 1881 Birth Year Birthplace
Georgene Kembrey township, Monck, Ontario 1866 location
George Kingsbury township, Grey North, Ontario 1866 location

Since I don't have a sub, I can't see more here.
Ancestry will show 50 hits at a time - LAC only shows 10 at a time.
Now I do know how her names are spelled, what her age is said to be, and which district & province she lives in, so I can enter all these and expect to get her on the first page of hits at LAC (there's only 1 hit this time).
The link I gave above accesses all the censuses except 1921:
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx

For 1921, there is free access right now for everyone, but only if you go via:
http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991

Of course,between ages 15 & 25 she could well have married.
In the UK there's no national system of civil registration, and since Canadian laws are based on the UK's, there's no national system in Canada.
In the UK that's handled by the countries, but in Canada it's the job of the provinces.

There are some Ontario BMDs at:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=CANADA

mgnv

Thank you for the extra info-is there any way of finding out what happened to her after 1881 ?

A hit at:
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/passenger-lists/passenger-lists-quebec-port-1865-1900/Pages/search.aspx
Given Name(s):Georgina
Surname:KINBERRY
Age:13
Ship:SARDINIAN
Port of Arrival:Quebec, Quebec
Date of Arrival:1879/06/10
Year of Arrival:1879
Microfilm Reel Number:C-4530
Reference:RG 76
Item Number:466897
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?id=e003539997&op=img
[A difft transcription of the passenger list]

It's not easy to get Canadian transcriptions for free. Usually, you download the free image (& do your own transcription) via:
http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx
1881 hit
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/e/e328/e008188039.pdf

Apologies for the delay in responding-I got "overtaken by events" -involving water,a plummer and electrician :-(

Thank you all for your input.

It would seem that Georgina was another of those children shipped out from "homes" in the UK

Rachel Matilda and Georgina are sisters the illig daughters of Anne Kembrey who I think is the Anne Kembrey who married a William Pember at Cheltenham in 1877

Anne was the younger sister of Lydia Kembrey who married Mr Bateman after having 3 illigit of her own although I suspect they may have been Batemans -he lived next door !!

I am very grateful for the info you have provided and will see where it leads :-)

Lydia Bateman nee Kembrey can't be Georgina's mother as she married Matthew Bateman in 1861 and Georgina was born in 1866 and presumably would have been registered as Georgina Bateman if she was Lydia's

LEES George Henry KEMBREY Matilda Cirencester Ampney Crucis Holy Rood 1855 1 71

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MainMenu.aspx

(not a lot Surname Kembrey on above link, wonder if that 1855 Marriage relates anywhere?, need some help from Elizabeth I think!)

Chris :)

1881 ???

Name: Rachel Bedwell
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: Robert Bedwell
Gender: Female
Where born: South Cerney, Gloucestershire, England
Civil Parish: Bibury
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street address: Bibury
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Laundress
Registration district: Northleach
Sub-registration district: Bibury
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2559
Folio: 30
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Bedwell 24
Rachel Bedwell 24
Ellen Bedwell 2
Thomas Bedwell

I wonder if Rachel Matilda, (birth found by root gather) took the Bateman name when Lydia Kembrey married Matthew Bateman. Just a thought


Marriages Dec 1878 (>99%)
BATEMAN Rachel Cirencester 6a 665
BEDWELL Robert Cirencester 6a 665

Having looked at census records for 1871, 1881 and 1901 I think there's a good chance she is the same person. So was Georgina her sister and Lydia her mother?

Google Maria Rye Homes there's lots of interesting information. I wonder what happened to Matilda/Rachel Matilda who was with Georgina in 1871.


Maria Rye
Our Western Home

For information on the Maria Rye children please contact

Maria Rye Home Children Database
Gail Collins 1869-1879 [email protected]
Chris Sanham 1880-1896 [email protected]

Home Children – Immigration Records

Given Name(s): Georgina
Surname: KINBURY
Age: 13
Gender: F
Ship: SARDINIAN
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Date of Departure: 1879-06-05
Port of Arrival: Quebec
Date of Arrival: 1879-06-14
Year of Arrival: 1879
Party: Maria Rye Homes

Destination: Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario

Comments: 53 children in party.

Type of Records: Passenger Lists
Microfilm Reel Number: C-4530

Remarks: The child's surname was illegible or difficult to decipher

Reference 1871 No clues on the original. Matthew was a labourer who as in Chris' post seems to have married Lydia Kembrey

Name Age
Matthew Bateman 46
Lydia Bateman 43
Ernest Bateman 8
Joseph Bateman 5
Amelia Bateman 2
Matilda Kembery 11
Georgina Kembery 4

KEMBREY Georgina Marshall KEMBREY 1866 Cirencester Cirencester, Cirencester 20 66

BATEMAN Matthew KEMBERY Lydia Cirencester Cirencester Register Office 1861 2 173
BATEMAN Matthew KEMBREY Lydia Cirencester Cirencester Register Office 1861 2 173

(she looks to be with above couple 1871)

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MainMenu.aspx

Chris :)

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/passenger-lists/passenger-lists-1865-1922/Pages/search.aspx

(if 'Sardinian' on above)

http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/immigration/immigration-records/home-children-1869-1930/immigration-records/Pages/immigration-records.aspx

Name: Rachel Matilda K?amb?ey
Registration Year: 1860
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Stroud
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 271


Name: Georgina M Kemdrey
Registration Year: 1866
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Cirencester
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 331

Could this be her?

One of many 'children' and others -

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935

Name: Georgina Kinberry

Gender: Female

Age: 13

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866

Date of Arrival: 10 Jun 1879

Vessel: Sardinian

Port of Arrival: Quebec, Quebec

Port of Departure: Liverpool, England

Roll: C-4530

Actually looking at the rather bad image, the head of household is Wm or William - although they state from Ontario, they state their origin as Irish and they are presbiterians (no doubt I've spelt that wrong!)

Georgene Kembrey
Gender:Female
Age:15
Birth Year:1866
Birthplace:England
Religion:Church of England
Nationality:English
Province:Ontario
District Number:144
District:Monck
Sub-District Number:E
Subdistrict:Wainfleet
Division:1
Household Members:NameAge

W_M Mewhinney 32
Isabelle Mewhinney 27
Minie Mewhinney 8
Maud Mewhinney 6
Blanche Mewhinney 4
Charles Garven 21
May Mewhinney 2
Georgene Kembrey 15

She is English and 15 years of age, but no other details on the image for her. The people she is living with are Canadian.

Sorry, I will post the details, but Ancestry has just froze on me.

A Georgina M Kembrey comes up as being on the 1881 Canadian Census

"My" Georgina was born 1866 Stroud Glocestershire so would be only 15( if it is her)

I would be grateful for any info please. :-)