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Mary Sanderson Married James Cumpsty in 1859. She appears to have had an illegitimate daughter Ellen Sanderson in 1852. There are children with James after marriage.
I am having trouble finding details of the previous marriage of James Cumpsty, born about 1822. On the 1871 Census he has children:- John, Jane and Elizabeth that appear to have been from a previous mother. I cannot find him in the 1861 Census.
Please could anybody find details of his previous marriage, wife's maiden name e.t.c.

Thanks -Val

Puuting the 1871 for reference:

1871 England Census
James Cumpsty
Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Cumpsty
Gender: Male Where born: Little Pardton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Penwortham Ecclesiastical parish: Penwortham St Mary
Town: Middleforth County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Registration district: Preston
Sub-registration district: Longton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Household schedule number: 126 Piece: 4201 Folio: 16 Page Number: 26
James Cumpsty 49
Mary Cumpsty 43
John Cumpsty 19 Penwortham
Ellen Sanderson 18
Jane Cumpsty 17 Wheeton,
Elizabeth Campsey 15 Wheeton,
Margaret Campsey 10 Penwortham
Sarah Campsey 8
Fanny Campsey 4
James Campsey 8 Months
Daniel Sanderson 73
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4201; Folio: 16; Page: 26; GSU roll: 846949.

1861 England Census
James Cumpety [James Cumpsty]
Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Cumpety
Gender: Male Where born: Poulton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Penwortham Ecclesiastical parish: Penwortham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Preston Sub-registration district: Longton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 76 Piece: 3124 Folio: 11 Page Number: 15
James Cumpety 39
Mary Cumpety 33 Penwortham,
Nancy Cumpety 13
John Cumpety 9
Ellen Cumpety 8
Jane Cumpety 7
Elizth Cumpety 5
Margt Cumpety 5/12
Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 3124; Folio: 11; Page: 15; GSU roll: 543082.

1851 England Census
James Cumpsty
Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Cumpsty
Gender: Male Where born: Skippval, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Weeton Ecclesiastical parish: Weeton
County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Registration district: Fylde Sub-registration district: Kirkham
ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 57 n Piece: 2269 Folio: 81 Page Number: 17
James Cumpsty 29 rail labourer
Mary Cumpsty 26 Wythop, Lancashire,
Nancy Cumpsty 2
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2269; Folio: 81; Page: 17; GSU roll: 87295-87296.

I looks like he married 2 different Mary Saunderson's!!


James Cumpsty
Gender:Male
Age:26
Birth Year:abt 1822
Event Type:Marriage
Event Date:8 Feb 1848
Parish:Kirkham, Lancashire, England
Spouse: Mary Sanderson
Spouse Age:22
Father:John Cumpsty
Spouse Father:Thomas Sanderson
Register Type:Bishop's Transcript

The oldest child on 1861 is Nancy - her birth was registered with mmn Sanderson according to Lancs BMD

You probably already have this - he was a widower:


James Cumpsty
Gender:Male
Age:37
Birth Year:abt 1822
Event Type:Marriage
Event Date:13 Oct 1859
Parish:Penwortham, St Mary, Lancashire, England
Spouse: Mary Sanderson
Spouse Age:32
Father:John Cumpsty
Spouse Father:Daniel Sanderson
Register Type:Parish Register

I think Elizabeth was the last child born to the first marriage, her birth registered in 1855 (mmn Sanderson), the first Mary died in 1856 age 31 in the sub registration district of Kirkham.

Check out LancsBMD, but some of the children have been recorded as Cumpstey so use soundex search:

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Do you have this from Lanc OPC?? Names a father for Ellen!

Baptism: 1 Dec 1852 St Mary, Penwortham, Lancashire, England
Ellen Sanderson - Daughter of Thomas Berry & Mary Sanderson
Abode: Penwortham
Occupation: Mechanic
Notes: Illegitimate Daughter
Baptised by: R. A. Rawstorne Incumbent
Register: Baptisms 1840 - 1855 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 58, Entry 470
Source: LDS Film 1502458

Baptism of Mary #1?

Baptism: 15 Mar 1825 St Chad, Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancashire, England
Mary Sanderson - dau of Thomas Sanderson & Nancy
Abode: Mythop
Occupation: Husbandman
Baptised by: R. Bowness
Register: Baptisms 1813-1825, Page 191, Entry 1525
Source: LDS Film 1517688

And her parents marriage:

Marriage: 31 May 1824 St Michael, Kirkham, Lancashire, England
Thomas Saunderson - Weeton
Nancy Penswick - Weeton
Witness: Thomas Waring; Catherine Leach
Married by Banns by: Gilmour Robinson, Curate
Register: Marriages 1821 - 1824 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Entry 716
Source: LDS Film 1502434

Many thanks for that. I found the other Mary Sanderson but thought it was wrong.

Now I will carry on.

Thanks- Val

Thanks again . I had the father for Ellen. rather a confusing Mix. Lots of my relatives seem to have been married twice.
Bye - Val