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My records show that one of David's wives was called Margaret. My mother has confirmed this. Looks like the 2nd one and Elizabeth the first.

Correct Reggie. I have just had this confirmed via a phone link with the UK.

Thank you.

Cheers
David

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1845
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WITHERS Robert ALLEN Sarah Manchester Collegiate Church (later Manchester Cathedral) Manchester CATH/44/231


Buy the cert for the names of both fathers

The marriage is on the IGI, but neither father is named on the transcription

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

The fact that he was married twice has been shown on here since 9/7

I have found today that David Withers 1855 was married twice. Trying to locate his other wife now. As Reggie has indicated could be Elizabeth Ann Massey.
Robert 1823 his father is locked in and now we look to locate the ancestry beyond this. No luck so far.

Cheers
David

Deaths Mar 1888 (>99%)
WITHERS Elizabeth Ann 29 Manchester 8d 230

First marriage...........................

Marriage: 2 Sep 1876 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England
David Withers - 21 years, Porter, Bachelor, 13 Denmark St., Seadley
Elizabeth Ann Massey - 19 years, Spinster, 7 Holland St., Seadley
Groom's Father: Robert Withers, Packer
Bride's Father: Isaac Massey, Gardener
Witness: John Williams; Catherine Massey
Married by Banns by: David Morgan, Curate
Register: Marriages 1876 - 1879, Page 17, Entry 34
Source: Manchester Central Library

1881 census


Person: WITHERS, David Address: 141, Cheltenham St, Manchester
Cost



WITHERS, David Head Married M 25 1856 Hall Porter
Salford, Lancashire VIEW
WITHERS, Elizth Ann Wife Married F 23 1858
Pendleton, Lancashire VIEW
WITHERS, David Son Single M 3 1878
Pendleton, Lancashire VIEW
WITHERS, John Son Single M 1 1880
Manchester, Lancashire

Marriage: 1 May 1897 Christ Church, Salford, Lancashire, England
Robert Withers - 26, Stoker, Bachelor, 37 Liverpool Street
Martha Yates - 26, Varnisher, Spinster, 37 Liverpool Street
Groom's Father: Robert Withers, Packer
Bride's Father: James Yates, Warehouseman
Witness: David Withers; Maria Yates
Married by Banns by: Fergus Hill
Register: Marriages 1895 - 1898, Page 132, Entry 264
Source: LDS Film 1786369

Marriage: 19 Dec 1891 St Stephen, Salford, Lancashire, England
John Patrick McGlynn - (X), 44, Fireman, Widower, 3 Lowe Square
Elizabeth Withers - (X), 31, Spinster, 7 Lowe Square
Groom's Father: John McGlynn, Brick Setter
Bride's Father: Robert Withers, Packer
Witness: Walter Barlow; Sarah Warker
Married by Banns by: J. T. Thompson Jones, Rector
Register: Marriages 1886 - 1896, Page 126, Entry 251
Source: LDS Film 1408729

Baptism: 9 Apr 1856 Christ Church, Salford, Lancashire, England
David Withers - [Child] of Robt. Withers & Sarah
Abode: Tontine St.
Occupation: Packer
Baptised by: J. Lester
Register: Baptisms 1854 - 1872, Page 18, Entry 138
Source: LDS Film 1786366

Baptism: 29 Mar 1863 St Philip, Salford, Lancashire, England
Edith Withers - [Child] of Robert Withers & Sarah
Abode: 7 Egerton St.
Occupation: Packer
Baptised by: W. Hopwood
Register: Baptisms 1848 - 1864, Page 252, Entry 1287
Source: LDS Film 506449

Baptism: 7 Jun 1871 Christ Church, Salford, Lancashire, England
Robert Withers - [Child] of Robert Withers & Sarah
Born: 21 Apr 1871
Abode: 24 West Wellington St.
Occupation: Packer
Baptised by: T.A. Stowell
Register: Baptisms 1854 - 1872, Page 284, Entry 2265
Source: LDS Film 1786366

Dear All.

The quick response has been fantastic. I will now look to trace the Withers line back further.

We have an indication that Roberts father (1823) was also a Robert but no details at this time.

Thanks to all from Australia.

Cheers
David

Is this his marriage:-


Name: WITHERS, David
Registration district: Manchester
County: Lancashire
Year of registration: 1891
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 8D
Page no: 355

MarriageFinder: David Withers married one of the following people:

ROGERS, Harriet
THOMAS, Margaret Jane<<<<<<<<<<<<<
MCHALE, Martin

Kath. x

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Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1891
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WITHERS David THOMAS Margaret J Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended Manchester MCR_RM/125/100

Is this him in 1861 census mis-transcribed as Wethers:-

1861 census transcription details for: 35, Tontine Street, Salford

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09
Piece: 2925
Folio: 78
Page: 10
Reg. District: Salford
Sub District: 4 Regent Road
Parish: Salford
Enum. District: 31
Ecclesiastical District: Christchurch
City/Municipal Borough: Salford

Address: 35, Tontine Street, Salford
County: Lancashire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

WETHERS, Robert Head Married M 38 1823 Packer In Manes Whouse
Manchester, Lancashire
WETHERS, Sarah Wife Married F 33 1828 House Wife
Manchester, Lancashire
WETHERS, Robert Son Unmarried M 16 1845 Worker In Calier Whouse
Manchester, Lancashire
WETHERS, Thomas Son Unmarried M 14 1847 Worker In Calier Whouse
Manchester, Lancashire
WETHERS, John Son Unmarried M 12 1849 Worker In Calier Whouse
Manchester, Lancashire
WETHERS, William Son Unmarried M 9 1852 At Day School
Salford, Lancashire
WETHERS, David Son Unmarried M 6 1855 At Day School
Salford, Lancashire<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
WETHERS, Elizabeth Daughter F 0 (9M) 1861 At Home
Salford, Lancashire

Kath. x

Have you got his marriage cert ?

What census have you found him on ?

Hi David.
Do you mean you are trying to find out who his parents were?


1861 England Census
Name: David Withers
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert Withers
Mother's Name: Sarah Withers
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration District: Salford
Sub-registration District: Regent Road

Robert Withers 38
Sarah Withers 33
Robert Withers 16
Thomas Withers 14
John Withers 12
William Withers 9
David Withers 6
Elizabeth Withers 9 Months

Jan

I am trying to confirm details re David Withers 1855 and his ancestors. He was my great grandfather. From the Salford area of Manchester.

Married to Margaret 1861.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Kindest Regards

David Brand