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Kenny - James & Mary c1801, James, Patrick & Brid

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mgnv

mgnv Report 9 Nov 2014 21:52

Erin - difft browsers sometimes react differently to the non-character stuff.
Maybe switching browsers is your solution - here's some uneditted cut & pastes on my PC

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1861 Census
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Piece: RG9/4297 Place: St Asaph -Denbighshire Enumeration District: 16
Civil Parish: Brynpolyn Ecclesiastical Parish: St Asaph
Folio: 41 Page: 31 Schedule: 158
Address: Denbigh Street



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Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
GALLAGHER Bridget Wife M F 40 Hawker Hard Ware Ireland - -
GALLAGHER Bridget Dau U F 12 Scholar Denbighshire - Wrexham
COLLINS Charles Lodger W M 75 Formerly Weaver (Pauper) Ireland - -
HIGGINS Jane Lodger M F 37 Formerly Wife & Hawker Ireland - - Lodger for 2 nights; occ. unclear
HIGGINS James Lodger - M 1 Son To Hawker Lancashire - Liverpool Lodger & Son to J Higgins

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Piece: RG9/4297 Place: St Asaph -Denbighshire Enumeration District: 16
Civil Parish: Brynpolyn Ecclesiastical Parish: St Asaph
Folio: 43 Page: 36 Schedule: 179
Address: 17 Jones's Square

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
KINNEY James Head M M 60 Labr & Hawker Of Small Ware Ireland - -
KINNEY Mary Wife M F 60 Ireland - -
GALLAGHER Seba Grndau - F 10 Scholar (Hawker's Son) Denbighshire - Llanfair Forename unclear
GALLAGHER James Grnson - M 8 Scholar (Hawker's Son) Anglesey - Holyhead
GALLAGHER Sarah Grndau - F 3 Scholar (Hawker's Dau) Flintshire - St Asaph


Gallagher births St Asaph 1851-1861
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Births Dec 1857
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Gallagher Sarah St Asaph 11b 338

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Births Sep 1858
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Gallagher Mary Wrexham 11b 305

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Births Mar 1860
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GALLAGHER Patrick St Asaph 11b 386
GALLAGHER Patrick Gallagher St Asaph 11b 386

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Births Sep 1861
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Gallagher Margaret St Asaph 11b 347



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Births Dec 1857 (>99%)
Gallagher Sarah St Asaph 11b 338 Scan available - click to view
Births Mar 1860 (>99%)
GALLAGHER Patrick St Asaph 11b 386 Scan available - click to view
GALLAGHER Patrick Gallagher St Asaph 11b 386 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1861 (>99%)
Gallagher Margaret St Asaph 11b 347 Scan available - click to view

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Pity the Anglesey birth wasn't rego'ed
Using http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/index.php gets

North Wales Birth indexes for the years: 1887
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
GALLAGHER James Gallagher Amlwch Isle of Anglesey - Llangefni GALLAGHER AMLWCH/19/E496

for this hit:

Births Sep 1887 (>99%)
GALLAGHER James Gallagher Anglesey 11b 511


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Actually, I create my posts in a notepad .txt file and edit them before actually posting them - I save the notepad file. I've been using this one for 11m now, and it's just over 1MB in size.

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 7 Nov 2014 20:29

Joonie Cloonie...Would love to edit out all the rubbish but cant seem to do it..!! Its never happened in the past until now and whatever I copy and paste comes up the same ..its driving me mad..any suggestions. ???

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 6 Nov 2014 17:15

Gwyneth if you are taking the name 'Kennedy' from the 1871 census that patchem posted earlier ...

Name: James Kinney [James Kenney]
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Kennedy
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Name: Mary Kennedy [Mary Kenney]
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Kinney
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Brynpolyn
County/Island: Flintshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: St Asaph
Sub-registration district: St Asaph
James Kinney 70
Mary Kennedy 70

... 'Kennedy' was actually a mistranscription of the information in the image by Ancestry

the image actually says 'Kenney' for both people

it was corrected by an Ancestry user in 2010

you can contact that user via the Ancestry system, her profile says she lives in Canada and she is still active every day on the Ancestry site

... however her profile says she is researching the name Kinna (?) and that may be how she came across James 'Kinney' so she may have no connection ...


ps ... I have an ancestor born in the late 1700s in England whose name was spelled Kenny or Kenney in censuses too who I suspect came from Irish parents too but so far I have not had any luck tracking that line ... although so far I have not tried too hard :-)

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 6 Nov 2014 17:06


Eringobragh two questions :-)

can you edit to identify the census years for both of those censuses?

(edit, oops, sorry, you did say 1861 at the bottom of the first one, so the one for Bridget is too?)

and can you possibly edit out all the irrelevant portions, the column titles and big spaces, so it's possible to read the content of the posts all together without scrolling through all those spaces (and also see the rest of the thread more easily)?


Gwyneth you will find that the people who help with questions here are almost always unrelated and are just other members like yourself who like researching family history ... anybody's family history!

can you say where the information about Mary's surname is coming from?

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 6 Nov 2014 16:39

Possibly Bridget ( ? daughter of James and Mary)
Piece: RG9/4297 Place: St Asaph -Denbighshire Enumeration District: 16
Civil Parish: Brynpolyn Ecclesiastical Parish: St Asaph
Folio: 41 Page: 31 Schedule: 158
Address: Denbigh Street









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Age



Occupation



Where Born



Remarks



GALLAGHER Bridget Wife M F 40 Hawker Hard Ware Ireland - -
GALLAGHER Bridget Dau U F 12 Scholar Denbighshire - Wrexham


Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 6 Nov 2014 16:33






Piece: RG9/4297 Place: St Asaph -Denbighshire Enumeration District: 16
Civil Parish: Brynpolyn Ecclesiastical Parish: St Asaph
Folio: 43 Page: 36 Schedule: 179
Address: 17 Jones's Square


1861 Census


KINNEY James Head M M 60 Labr & Hawker Of Small Ware Ireland - -
KINNEY Mary Wife M F 60 Ireland - -
GALLAGHER Seba Grndau - F 10 Scholar (Hawker's Son) Denbighshire - Llanfair Forename unclear
GALLAGHER James Grnson - M 8 Scholar (Hawker's Son) Anglesey - Holyhead
GALLAGHER Sarah Grndau - F 3 Scholar (Hawker's Dau) Flintshire - St Asaph

The above seems to be the family 1861










































Gwyneth

Gwyneth Report 6 Nov 2014 13:02

Hello
Back in 2010 you very kindly sent me information about the Kenny family namely Patrick Kenny. I have just started renewing my efforts to trace the Irish side & have found I believe James & Patricks correct surname for their mother which maybe Kennedy not Resivick. Are these people in your family tree?
I hope that you do not mind me contacting you again
Gwyneth

Gwyneth

Gwyneth Report 6 Apr 2010 07:11

Thank you for all the information, I now have a lot to look into
You have been a great help
Gwyneth

patchem

patchem Report 5 Apr 2010 09:04

Marriages Dec 1872
HUGHES Mary Pwllheli 11b 917
KENNEY James Pwllheli 11b 917

patchem

patchem Report 5 Apr 2010 08:48

Deaths Jun 1875
Kenney James 75 St.Asaph 11b 287


1871 Wales Census
James Kinney [James Kenney] Age: 70 Estimated birth year: abt 1801 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil parish: Brynpolyn County/Island: Flintshire Country: Wales Registration district: St Asaph Sub-registration district: St Asaph ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household schedule number: 164
James Kinney 70 ag lab
Mary Kennedy 70 ireland
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5669; Folio: 56; Page: 28; GSU roll: 892493.

patchem

patchem Report 5 Apr 2010 08:38

1871 Wales Census
Patrick Henny Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1839 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: St Asaph, Flintshire, Wales Civil parish: Criccieth County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales Registration district: Pwllheli Sub-registration district: Criccieth ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 86
Patrick Henny 32 Hawker
Jane Henney 38 Ynyscynhaiarn, Caernarfonshire,
Ellen Henny 5 Ynyscynhaiarn, Caernarfonshire,
Richard Henney 2
James Henney 2
Ann Henney 9 months
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 5702; Folio: 22; Page: 13; GSU roll: 875585

patchem

patchem Report 5 Apr 2010 08:33

1881 Wales Census
Patrick Kenney Age: 41 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil parish: St Asaph County/Island: Flintshire Country: Wales Street Address: Jones Square Condition as to marriage: Married Occupation: Ag Lab Registration district: St Asaph Sub registration district: St Asaph ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Patrick Kenney 41
Jane Kenney 47 Portmadoc, Caernarvonshire
James Kenney 12 Portmadoc, Caernarvonshire
Richard Kenney 12 Portmadoc, Caernarvonshire
Annie Kenney 10 Portmadoc, Caernarvonshire
Edward Kenney 8 Portmadoc, Caernarvonshire
Mary Kenney 6 Portmadoc, Caernarvonshire
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 5529; Folio: 72; Page: 4; Line: ; GSU roll: 1342328.

patchem

patchem Report 5 Apr 2010 08:28

This is son Patrick:
1891 Wales Census
Patrick Kenny Age: 51 Estimated birth year: abt 1840 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil parish: St Asaph Ecclesiastical parish: St Asaph
County/Island: Flintshire Country: Wales Street Address: Luke Street Occupation: general labourer Registration district: St Asaph Sub-registration district: St Asaph
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Patrick Kenny 51
Jane Kenny 57 Pentre Felen, Caernarvonshire
James Kenny 22 Pentre Felen, Caernarvonshire
Edward Kenny 18 Pentre Felen, Caernarvonshire
William R Kenny 1 St Asaph, Flintshire
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4627; Folio 138; Page 15; GSU roll: 6099737.

Gwyneth

Gwyneth Report 30 Mar 2010 09:03

I am looking for James1801-1875 & Mary(??Resivick) born Ireland died St Asaph Wales &2 or 3 children Patrick born? Ireland 1840-1893 died St Asaph or Pwlleli, James born Ireland/England married Mary Hughes in Llanberis 17/12/1872. There is a Bridget Kenny born 1817 but not sure if she is a sister or aunt maybe
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Gwyneth