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Patricia
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12 Jul 2013 00:49 |
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Army Record for Thomas Vincent Scully This record was difficult to read.
Name: Thomas Vincent Scully Year of Birth 1889 8 Seymour Street, Euston Road 18th Rifle Brigade Regimental Number 200447 Letter written by Mrs Elizabeth Scully of 22 Swinton Street, Greys Inn Road,Kings Cross, W C 1 in 1920 asking for Thomas Vincent Scully's medals as he had died on 12th July 1919 in India.
William Henry Scully lived at 22 Swinton Street In 1925 Albert and Frederick move in with William BY 1929 Albert is not living with them In 1938 Elizabeth has moved in with William and Frederick 1939 they have moved to 4 Heriot Place(near to Highgate Road) St Pancras In 1946 they have moved to 36 Elaine Grove St Pancras, but Elizabeth has gone I have found a death for an Elizabeth Scully in September 1943 Pancras 1b 84 William and Frederick lived at 36 Elaine Grove until 1957 then I lose them I do not know if they have moved again or both died.
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Catherine
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3 Jun 2009 09:59 |
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Possible Army Record for William Henry:-
Name: William Henry Scully Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891 Age at enlistment: 24 RESIDENCE: 22 Swinton St, Kings Cross, W C, London Document Year: 1915 Regimental Number: 3908 Number of Images: 15 Regiment: Welsh Guards
Next of Kin:- Elizabeth Scully (Mother) of same address. Occupation: Attendant in Music Hall
Demobilization:- 18th Oct.1919
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Catherine
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3 Jun 2009 09:26 |
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1891 Name: Thomas Scully Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England Civil parish: Islington Ecclesiastical parish: St Anne Town: London City County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: Islington Sub-registration district: Upper Holloway ED, institution, or vessel: 61 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Thomas Scully 28 Elizabeth Scully 26 Thomas Scully 2 William Scully 3/12
So no Peter Scully, so who is he ? I would guess a nephew but to be sure you need to view that record.
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Catherine
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3 Jun 2009 09:17 |
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Could be her in 1911
First names KATHLEEN Birth Year 1893 Birth Year +/- 1 years Birth Place LONDON Relationship To Head WIFE County London Residence ST. PANCRAS
HOUSEHOLD STONE KATHLEEN MARY F 1893 18 St Pancras London
which would mean she married Robert C. Stone
Living in same household HOUSEHOLD STONE KATHLEEN EMMA F 1911 8 WEEKS St Pancras London HOUSEHOLD STONE ROBERT CHARLES M 1890 21 St Pancras London
Other possible children for Kathleen:-
Births Sep 1914 (>99%) STONE Robert C (Scully) Pancras 1b 253
Births Mar 1921 (>99%) Stone Albert J (Scully) Pancras 1b 245 Births Jun 1923 (>99%) Stone Leonard A (Scully) Pancras 1b 233
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Catherine
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3 Jun 2009 09:13 |
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She would have been very young, but this could be why she is not on 1911 census:-
Marriages Dec 1910 (>99%) Camin Antonio Pancras 1b 199 Marzorati Maria Pancras 1b 199 <<<<Scully Kathleen M Pancras 1b 199 Stone Robert C Pancras 1b 199
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Catherine
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3 Jun 2009 09:09 |
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This is possibly William (who is 10yrs old in 1901 census)
1911 HOUSEHOLD SCULLY WILLIAM HENRY M 1891 20 St Pancras London
Living in same household HOUSEHOLD SCULLY ELIZABETH F 1867 44 St Pancras London HOUSEHOLD SCULLY PETER PARTRICK M 1883 28 St Pancras London HOUSEHOLD SCULLY THOMAS VINCENT M 1890 21 St Pancras London
There is a Peter Scully, but no sign of Kathleen?
I think you should take a look at both these 1911 records to see exactly what the relationships are.
So Elizabeth is still alive and not remarried at this stage. By taking a look at the original record it could state if she was divorced or not?
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3 Jun 2009 09:07 |
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This looks like Kathleen's birth:-
Name: Kathleen Scully Year of Registration: 1893 Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar District: Pancras (1837-1901) County: London, Middlesex Volume: 1b Page: 176
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Catherine
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3 Jun 2009 09:02 |
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for ref:- 1901 Name: Thos Scully Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Sanderstead, Durham, England Civil parish: St Pancras Ecclesiastical parish: St Pancras Mother Church County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
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Registration district: St Pancras Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 277 Household Members: Name Age Thos Scully 39 Elizabeth Scully 37 born: Sheerness, Essex Thos Scully 12 born: Lambeth, London Willm Scully 10 born: Islington, London Kathleen Scully 8 born: Islington, London Arthur Scully 4 Fredk Scully 1
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3 Jun 2009 08:52 |
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There is this birth in St. Pancras:-
Births Mar 1911 (>99%) Scully Edward J Pancras 1b 51
so another possible child but you would have to buy the cert. to be sure.
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Catherine
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3 Jun 2009 08:49 |
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You could firstly try 1911 census to see what it says:-
First names THOMAS HENRY Last names SCULLY Birth Year 1862 Birth Year +/- 1 years Birth Place SUNDERLAND
HOUSEHOLD SCULLY THOMAS HENRY M 1862 49 St Pancras London
Living in same household HOUSEHOLD SCULLY ALBERT ERNEST M 1902 9 St Pancras London HOUSEHOLD SCULLY ARTHUR EDWARD M 1898 13 St Pancras London HOUSEHOLD SCULLY ELIZABETH F 1867 44 St Pancras London HOUSEHOLD SCULLY FREDRICK REGINALD M 1900 11 St Pancras London
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Patricia
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3 Jun 2009 08:39 |
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My GGF Thomas Scully 1862 was married to Elizabeth Lloyd (I think in June 1888) My mother told me there were 6 children, but I only knew Arthur (1897 my GF) and Albert (c1902). Mum also said the family split up and Thomas took on the youngest three children (Fredrick - c1900, being the third). Elizabeth had the older three, which my research leaves me to believe are Thomas or Thos c1889, William c1891 and Kathleen c1893. I am interested to trace Elizabeth and my GF's sibling down to present day. However, either she hid her tracks carefully or its a very common name because I get very conflicting results when I search the various official records. Here are some of my notes from my research: 1871 Census shows Elizabeth and whole family's place of birth as Mile End, St Pancras, London. I suspect this is an error because 1901 Census looks like born in Essex, Sheerness and that crossed out and then very faintly Kent. Unless this is the wrong Elizabeth. Philip says: spelt sculey in 1881 census Births Dec 1862 SCULLY Thomas Henry Sunderland 10a 405 Marriages Jun 1888 LLOYD Elizabeth Marylebone 1a 1109 / SCULLY Thomas Henry An Elizabeth J Lloyd was born in Sheppy (according to the FreeBDM transcription) which is the area that Sheerness is in Jan/Mar 1866 1c 484. However viewing the original it says Stepney not Sheppy. An Elizabeth L Scully died in 1915 in Barnet 3a 429, can't see any other deaths of the right sort of age, but she may have remarried and so death would have a different surname.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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